Physician care DOs and MDs: What are the true differences? A recent study found that there is no pronounced difference between DOs and MDs when it comes down to the care provided and the costs of that care. July 5, 2023WednesdayJuly 2023 issue The DO Distinction Brian Loveless, DO Brian Loveless, DO, is the chief medical officer of WesternU Health. Contact Dr. Loveless
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Magnificent! Thank you always, Dr. Loveless! Great article, challenge on, love it and live for it! Jul. 13, 2023, at 8:40 am Reply
Excellent article! The comparison article in question is a hospital based comparison review. The reality of hospital work is that every clinician uses the same EHR-EMR. The drop down menu is the same for everyone. The treatment options are the same for everyone. The documentation requirements are the same for everyone. The utilization review committee, the department committees , and the ever present chief medical officer complaints, the discharge coordinator notes are the SAME for everyone. It is the equivalent of looking at a photocopy of a page from a book and trying to guess which brand of manufacture made the machine that it was copied from. There is no distinctiveness in processes ENGINEERED TO REMOVE DISTINCTIVENESS. The sad part is how the EMR is a measure of care no matter what. Ask a patient: this is what is documented in your chart by a doctor…were any of these four pages of questions ever asked of you? Were any of these physical exam components ever done to you? More than likely, the answer (ESPECIALLY if the patient was a doctor) will be no. But it sure is documented. Our students, and our hospitalist are rewarded by the completion of their documentation. Our hospital CEO, CFO, CMO have bonus compensations tied to “metrics” that are standardized by the EHR-EMR. I expect us all to measure the same if the mechanics of care are always tied to a pre established documentation protocol. Jul. 13, 2023, at 8:59 am Reply
Very well written Dr. Loveless. Thank you for the read which was a good “pick-me-up” to start my day. Bravo Jul. 13, 2023, at 10:44 am Reply
Excellent Article!Again, we have to look to how EHR-EMR’s and drop down menus are uniform no matter who is utilizing them.We have to understand from a management point, medical care can’t be an art it must be a uniform homogenized product.The drop down menu does not discriminate as to who is operating the computer…everyone has the same options and choices.If you look at a page of paper that has been photocopied from a book, the engineers goal is to have the copy look the same as the original. No one can tell which photocopy machine the photocopy was made upon. CEO’s, CMO’s , Chief Nursing officers, utilization review, department reviews, discharge coordinator’s reviews are all designed to have the same exact outcomes to meet national metrics and to make sure the management team meets IT’S metrics for management bonuses at the end of each quarter. It thus comes as no surprise when a hospital based study of of all things hospitalists shows uniform outcome.That is the precise goal of employment of physicians…each physician can be replaced by someone else without anyone noticing any difference in “quality metrics”.The art of medicine is antithetical to an EHR-EMR.Nowhere in an EHR are drop down options for an osteopathic structural exam or differential diagnosis. CMO’s rage against “laundry lists of diagnosis on the chart”.Their reviews are “focus on the admission diagnosis and get the patient out as soon as possible”.Thus the uniform test results.You can’t be different Jul. 13, 2023, at 11:15 am Reply
Perhaps we could accept, that many (perhaps most?) of our osteopathic students are actually NOT osteopathic trained after their 2nd year in medical school. Many (perhaps most) never perform OMT on a patient (ever?) while on a rotation in 3rd and 4th year unless they specifically sign up for a rotation in NMM. I still do OMT on 20% of my primary care patients after 20 years- but I also know that the students who follow me say I’m the exception, not the rule, on their rotations. Then, they move from No osteopathic training in rotations to no osteopathic training or preceptors in an ACGME residency. OR programs? Not in my specialty ( or perhaps 5 residents trained per year across the country). Twenty years ago, medical school told us we were distinct. Fifteen years ago, the osteopathic profession moved to the mantra that we could be osteopathic and not do OMT. Now we don’t do OMT, we don’t train separately and we expect to still be distinct? It will be the future (perhaps sooner than anyone wants) that we won’t be osteopathically certified either. It will be a short time until we are just the exact same except a few and OMT training will become optional. Are we pretending it was taught, on actual human patients- for most learners during the pandemic? Tele-OMT training didn’t work. I wish the profession the best of luck. Jul. 13, 2023, at 12:46 pm Reply
It is unfortunate that there has been a trend of too many DOs settling for “just as good as” an MD. Thank you for encouraging US physician DOs to embrace Osteopathy. People need Osteopathy, and if physcian DOs aren’t practicing it, more and more non-physician DOs will. Non-physician DOs can help people a great deal, but it’s not the same as someone with physician-level knowledge practicing it. It’s such a shame that Osteopathy is not also being used much by many physician DOs. Think of all the good it would do our patients if more DOs actually practiced osteopathic medicine instead of just getting a degree in it. Jul. 13, 2023, at 7:42 pm Reply
This refers to hospital docs only. Office practices are/can be very different. All phases of medicine are practiced in the office. As an FP, I tried to keep m patients out of the Hosp. for 62 years. OMT was an important part of that. Jul. 14, 2023, at 7:39 am Reply
MD and DO are definitely distinct entities when applying to competitive surgical specialties. DO applicants have a significant disadvantage especially in this upcoming era when Step 1 is pass fail, courses are pass fail, and there is no class rank. It will be interesting to see the match rate of DOs into traditionally allopathic surgical programs this upcoming cycle. I anticipate it being almost impossible as programs now emphasize research, the prestige of the school, letter of recommendation in the academic community, etc. This is very unfortunate as the quality of residency training impacts you more as a physician than the medical school you attended. If the DO community is willing to accept its distinctions as comprised of only primary care physicians in the coming years, then continue as is and emphasize a degree based on OMT. If future DOs will only be able to pursue primary care specialties, considering shortening medical education to 3 years would provide a more useful distinction and advantage. It would also accommodate for the lower earning potential of primary care and lower the the medical education debt burden. Jul. 15, 2023, at 7:50 am Reply
Very good comments re: our 2 professions. I am 83 and still working at a small community hospital in rural Oklahoma. I am certified by both ABIM and Osteopathic boards in internal medicine and gastroenterology. I was one of the first DOs to get ABIM certification. I became program director for a GI fellowship through Oklahoma State University College of Osteopathic Medicine. I am proud of both professions since both have advantages that you so well outlined. The main factor I see is the confusion the public sees in knowing what a DO stands for and thereby unable to discern if a DO has the same credentials and training of that as his counterpart. At some point I personally feel we should all unite with one universal degree and avoid confusion. The schools can continue as they have. We need to continue supplying our country with the best physicians. Each medical school has its own unique philosophy, skills, research but in the end the outcome is the same. That is producing a well trained, competent, and compassionate physicians. Leon J Yoder, DO, FACP Jul. 15, 2023, at 6:24 pm Reply